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  1. After messing about on the Demo with a couple friends. I'm sold on the functionality of the game. But I have a couple of questions. Through a good bit of hunting around (and a lot of amazon.com) I own every D&D3.5E rule book. I see in the Demo it comes with 3.5E Core Rules which looks to be just the PHB, and it doesn't seem to include actual rules for combat maneuvers like grapple, fainting.
  2. Custom D&D 3.5 screen I made up, because I couldn't find one that had all of the information I wanted. Includes page references for everything. The Diplomacy skill.
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This page is in need of cleanup. Srsly. It's a fucking mess.

It also says things such as 'if a raptoran becomes incapacitated during flight his wings naturally unfurl and he descends in a corkscrew and only takes 1d6 dmg regardless of fall distance.' Raptoran: Page 65 Races of the Wild (Official content PC race). Basically medium sized elf with wings. With 5HD they can fly.

Dungeons & Dragons 3rd Edition
RPG published by
Wizards of the Coast
AuthorsMonte Cook, Jonathan Tweet, Skip Williams
First Publication2000 (3rd Edition)
2003 (3.5 Edition)
Essential BooksDungeon Master's Guide
Player's Handbook
Monster Manual
Tome of Battle
Player's Handbook II

The third edition of the Advanced Dungeons & Dragons game, albeit dropping 'advanced' from the title to make it more accessible to new players. Though initially published in the Fall of 2000 by Wizards of the Coast (as the version commonly referred to as '3.0e'), a '3.5' revision was published in July 2003 with some minor changes to damage resistance and the skill points system, and it is the 3.5 revision that most 3rd edition players use. Wizards then went on to release 4e, which received a controversial greeting, and inspired Paizo to monetize the ensuing salt by releasing its own 3.5 with blackjack and hookers, called Pathfinder.

Among the five major editions of D&D, Third Edition is famous for releasing way too many books in rapid succession, usually one but sometimes two per month, many of which were written by people who didn't have a very clear grasp of the rules and none of whom were looking over each others' shoulders or reading all of these books to ensure that everything would work together correctly. As a result, the big selling point of 3e is that it has record-setting numbers of playable races (over 200), base classes (52), and Prestige Classes (800? 1000? 2000? No one really knows), while the big drawback is that it permits a lot of rules lawyering and insane brokenness. If Chaotic Stupid was a D&D edition, it would be 3e.

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System[edit]

The Core Mechanic[edit]

3rd edition introduced the now ubiquitous 'd20 System', where almost every action with a chance of failure is resolved by rolling a d20, applying relevant modifiers, and comparing the result to a set difficulty (or, in some cases, another character's roll) to determine success, referred to by the system as the 'Core Mechanic'. For example, a fighter attempting to hit a monster with his sword rolls a d20 and may add his Base Attack Bonus, Strength bonus, relevant Weapon Focus bonuses, magical enhancements, etc. with the objective of beating his opponent's Armor Class. Rolling equal to or over the target's AC means he has successfully hit and gets to deal damage. In a similar vein, a rogue attempting to pick a lock rolls a d20 and adds his skill ranks, dexterity bonus, any relevant skill bonuses from feats, modifiers depending on the quality of his equipment, etc. in an attempt to beat the target DC (Difficulty Class) of the lock.

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This was generally regarded as a significant improvement on the systems used in 1e and 2e, where many different parts of the game were governed by vastly different mechanics. Restructuring the game around the single core mechanic made gameplay much simpler and easier to pick up for new players.

Characters and Creatures[edit]

Characters and creatures in the system are structured around Hit Dice and ability scores, wherein bonuses and traits from various hit dice are stacked together and combined with modifiers derived from the base ability scores to determine the other statistics of the entity. For example, a 2nd level Cleric/3rd level Fighter would have a +1 BAB for his two cleric hit dice and a +3 BAB for his three fighter hit dice, combining to give him a total Base Attack Bonus of +4, which would then be modified by other abilities such as strength or dexterity to determine his overall bonus when making an attack. The hit points granted to him by each of those hit dice would be added together and modified by the constitution score to determine his overall hit point total, and so on.

Almost all entities have six ability scores: Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Intelligence, Wisdom, and Charisma - that describe basic qualities of their character. The human average ability score, as the baseline from which all other ability scores are referenced, is 10 or 11. Ability scores higher than this grant bonuses to their relevant checks, and lower than this impose penalties. Every two points of score results in a +1 modifier, such that a score of 8-9 is a -1 penalty, 10-11 is +0, 12-13 is +1, and so on. Different races generally have bonuses and penalties to some ability scores to represent how they differ to humans; for example, graceful but frail elves have a +2 to their Dexterity (giving them an extra +1 bonus to Dexterity-linked checks) but a -2 penalty to their Constitution, whereas stout but surly dwarves receive a +2 to their Constitution but suffer a -2 to their Charisma.

In general, having any ability score reduced to 0 (by magic or other effects) results in incapacitation or death; a 0 Str or Dex character is unable to move himself, a 0 Con character is dead, and a 0 in a mental ability stat results in a coma. Some entities are lacking certain abilities entirely, a situation explicitly different from having a 0 in the stat: for example, a mindless magical construct that cannot think for itself both has no constitution score, as it is not a living being and is not subject to poisons, diseases, and other such things as living beings are; it also has no intelligence score, as it is generally incapable of making its own decisions and instead acts only on the orders given to it by its master.

Everything also fits into size categories, which describe how big or small they are. In ascending order, the categories are Fine, Diminutive, Tiny, Small, Medium, Large, Huge, Gargantuan, and Colossal. A creature's size category modifies its Armor Class and attack bonus (a target relatively larger than you is easier to hit), and determines the damage of its natural weapons and its space and reach. Don't think of your space as the area you occupy, otherwise you start thinking of ten-foot-wide horses; rather, think of it as the area you control. How close do you want to get to a guy swinging a longsword, anyway?

Settings[edit]

  • Forgotten Realms - Basically the same as normal D&D, but with a huge basement called the Underdark, which gave us a never-ending stream of Drow edgelords that everyone hated.
  • Eberron - called 'dungeonpunk', and winner of the 'make a new setting for D&D' contest. Its whole thing is taking the existence of magic to it's logical conclusion: people would industrialize that shit. Naturally, this is where warforged come from.
  • Dragonlance - Basically the same as normal D&D, but with Kenders and Tinker gnomes, arguably the worst player races ever. It also had like 6 or 7 different sub-races of elves for god knows what reason. Most of the Third Edition Dragonlance stuff was licensed to third parties, but only in name; Margaret Weiss and Sovereign Press were actually ex-TSR employees who had worked on the game's first and second editions. This would be like if Blizzard had licensed Runic Games (AKA Flagship Studios, AKA Blizzard North, AKA Condor) to develop Reaper of Souls.
  • Ravenloft - originally a single dungeon and then a campaign setting throughout the game's first two editions, Ravenloft got licensed to White Wolf for Third Edition. White Wolf promptly went ahead and designed a whole new fucking game bolted on top of the 3.0e rules set, and published it under their new 'Sword & Sorcery' label.
  • Kingdoms of Kalamar - Originally created by Kenzerco as a campaign setting that was 'game-agnostic' on paper, but in reality was designed exclusively to be used with D&D. WotC officially licensed this setting as a D&D product when they realized that they had no legal way to cock-block Kenzerco and figured that they might as well make money off of it. Feel free to pretend that this one doesn't exist.

Not Settings[edit]

  • Oriental Adventures - Although probably intended to pave the way for a Rokugan (Legend of the Five Rings) campaign setting, those L5R books never materialized.
  • Ghostwalk - A book about all the neat things that your character can do after they've died. Somehow mistaken for a campaign setting by at least one idiot.
  • Planescape - despite being the best D&D campaign setting ever, this got exterminatused in 3e.
  • Dark Sun - Also got exterminaused in 3e, but it was no big deal because the Thri-kreen were the only interesting part of it and they got included in the MM2.


Open Gaming License[edit]

WotC heard about this 'open source' thing, and thought they'd get on the bandwagon with Open Gaming License. Players had been making house rules for forever and a day, but WotC riffed off the GNU Public License and wrote some rules where anyone could publish supporting material off the core rules, for free, just acknowledge the source and use the same license so people can make splatbooks for your stuff. The amount of non-WotC material written for 3rd edition skyrocketed, and the d20 System became the heart of dozens of role-playing games in dozens of genres. WotC didn't see royalty checks, but it helped cement their grip on the roleplay game industry during the 3e era and sold a lot of corebooks.

WotC chickened out in the next edition, offering a 'new and improved' licensing scheme for it, which is more restrictive and far less used.

Gameplay[edit]

See Examples of Play.

Fandom[edit]

Since D&D is relatively mainstream and has been around for so long, many of the design benefits in D&D 3e have been incorporated into other RPGs, so newfags will take these benefits for granted. Keep in mind that D&D 3e broke new ground in many areas, or brought good ideas into widespread attention, and these same newfags probably don't remember how everyone lost their shit when Dragonlance came out.

  • It just works, bitches. Proof by example: if it wasn't so good over ten years later, people would've jumped ship to Warhammer Fantasy or still be playing AD&D 2nd Ed.
  • The Open Gaming License allowed for an explosion of peer-created content. Not all of it is good, but you don't have to buy the crap, you can just take the cream. No more 'compatible with most fantasy rpgs (wink wink),' and no more small press crap because real publishers are too scared of lawyers.
  • All task resolution is normalized to a single d20 + relevant modifiers vs. Difficulty Class roll.
    • Your chance to hit is no longer dependent on an unwieldy THAC0 chart. Each class grants a Base Attack Bonus progression that adds to all your attacks.
    • The five source-based saving throw classes based on source are reduced to three defense-based saves: Fortitude (I'm a tough guy), Reflex (I'm a nimble guy), and Will (I'm a wiseguy, er, wise guy).
  • Skills replace nonweapon proficiencies. Each class has a set of skills that they excel in, though any character can take any skill they want. The designers finally realized that a fighter shouldn't have to stand at the bottom of a wall and reach ineffectually just because 'Climb Walls' wasn't in his class features.
  • The Feats system brought in awesome customizing of classes. You want a swordfighter that specializes in sabre-&-dirk fighting? How about a gladiator that brawls unarmed and can go toe-to-toe with a stone golem? We got you covered. It's like a DIY kit for class features.
  • While the older editions covered the basic realistic combat styles, 3e started to see just how far 'heroic' combat can go.
  • Class restrictions based on race are gone. Anybody can take any class to any level. You no longer need minimum attributes to take a core class (though a caster is effectively useless without at least an 11 in their primary attribute); instead, those attributes contribute to the power of the class.
    • Prestige classes are introduced, which are more specialized classes often associated with organizations and the like. They usually require skills and feats, with the design philosophy that specific class levels should never be prerequisites for a prestige class.
  • Rules for homebrewing player races using monsters as templates, allowing players to play as ridiculous nonsense like an ixitxachitl, a swarm of bugs, or a flying aborted fetus.
    • For many of these monsters, 3.5e cut out the middleman and just straight-up printed player character versions of those monsters, including mind flayers.
  • Exceedingly easy and rewarding to make homebrew content for, it's a versatile and open system.

Criticism[edit]

This article or section contains opinions shared by all and/or vast quantities of Derp. It is liable to cause Rage. Take things with a grain of salt and a peck of troll.

Some of the criticisms of third edition D&D include:

D'angelo Russell

  • Not enough anime powers and weeaboo artwork.
    • Attempted to fix it with the nigh-endless train of prestige classes in the 'Complete BLAH' and 'Book of Vile/Exalted BLAH' and Tome of Battle: 9 Euphemisms For My Dick... Starting with 6 prestige classes in the 3.0 DMG (16 in the 3.5 DMG), there's 120 more in official splatbooks (349 in the official 3.5 splatbooks), and that's not counting the Epic prestige classes above level 20, or prestige classes introduced in modules, and I haven't even started on the prestige classes mentioned in official settings...
  • The Race-as-Class affair was done away with...in theory, that is. Instead there's Favored Classes, which somewhat shoehorn in particular archetypes and sometimes goes against a setting's established lore, but that's hardly an issue for a mono-class character, or a character with a level in every class.
    • The issue is that if you do multiclass with a race's favored class, you now take XP penalties for the other class - a dick move, especially when you're taking a race with a favored class you only want to dip in.
  • Racial balance is crap. Human is best at everything by a significant margin and only Dwarfs come close in the core races. Non-core randomly saddled races that were otherwise balanced with humans with a LA+1 that rendered them useless, seemingly only to keep 'exotic' races away.
  • Katanas are seen as underpowered in d20, although there are also some who feel it doesn't deserve its masterwork quality and instead feel it should receive -4 Str.
  • People who enjoy being fucked in the ass prefer FATAL.
  • RULES. RULES. RULES. ENDLESS RULES.
    • Honestly, regular players don't really have to worry about this as much as 4chan tells you to. All they have to do is tell the DM what they want to do and roll a d20, and then the DM does all the math (or just makes some shit up). A DM, however, will be expected to read hundreds of pages of rules, covering such topic as Challenge Rating calculation, special combat maneuvers, level progression, how to create items, rules for specific items, rules for flight and mounted moving, rules for surviving, tracking, hunting, picking your nose and so on.
    • Conversely, the edition was notorious for the sheer fucking overload in options available to players between all the campaign settings, the Complete books, the Race books, and every relevant Dragon Magazine article, which makes it a near nightmare to get things organized. Part of this can be excused to the relative nascence of the internet and the possibility that WotC was hesitant to sink money into a rules database like they later would. Adding salt to the wound is the knowledge that the SRD only carries the most essential of the rules (Core, Psionics, Epic Levels, Unearthed Arcana's variant rules, a handful of random monsters from later books, and some random non-epic stuff that got reprinted in the Epic Level Handbook.), as the entire intent was to allow WotC to sell supplements while letting third parties make 'compatible' content to give D&D a massive marketshare (which worked), rather than ease of use.
    • Many 2nd edition rules were presented as optional, allowing the DM leeway to experiment with his ideas and his group. Carrying over beloved characters from 1st to 2nd edition was no big deal. 3rd edition made this impossible, and canonically standardized plenty of bad and broken rules that made us all want to climb back up into Lorraine's warm life-giving uterus and ask for forgiveness.
  • Spells all work differently from one another, so instead of looking up the rules on a type of action, you look up the rules for a specific spell. And then the spell's errata. And the Ask the Sage article about that spell.
  • No one can even pretend the various classes are balanced against one another. After 10th level or so spellcasters are so powerful and versatile that the average dungeon crawl is cut short when they use a spell or two to redirect a nearby river into the front door, killing everything inside but the skeletons. For comparison, the fighter is about to get his third attack a round! ...With a to-hit rate so low he'll almost certainly miss with it.
    • Classes have never been balanced against each other but this is mostly to do with the fact that the power of casters was kept from AD&D but the drawbacks (slower initial leveling speed, greater potential to kill yourself, highly limited spell slots and several things that made spellcasting hell) were removed. Granted this example is a bit exaggerated since a smart DM could just quietly change the dungeon to an undead filled one as a middle finger for trying to cheese it or if home to anyone of magical ability, bounce off a ward.
      • Even so, casters are WAY more powerful on an individual basis. Just check the Tier System. Casters are nigh-always superior in personal combat (oh, trolls trying to mess me up? Well, guess I'll just fly straight up a few meters and shoot them dead), and have the ability to handle pretty much everything else (short of traps... Damn rogue-only abilites (they can usually bypass them or deal with them some other way than disabling them, though)) as well. They even have specific spells/powers for doing 'whatever I want' ('Wish' and 'Reality Revision' comes to mind). The fact that the Adept, a class made for NPCs in mind and thus supposed to be in every way inferior to the player classes, is STILL a solid and perfectly playable Tier 4, at tier or even ahead of most of the Core SRD melee classes, solely because spellcasting is its primary focus, really says something.
  • Some rules make a lot of sense for the sake of mechanics in combat and gameplay but sound silly in realistic terms... like 'the older you get the wiser you get'... and by default the better your sense of sight and hearing become (handwavium: spot and listen checks aren't necessarily about how well you can see and hear, but about how well you NOTICE the things you see and hear, which, in the real world, does often improve with age and experience. For example, we're all much better at telling the difference between the CGI dinosaurs and the physical puppets in Jurassic Park than we were back in 1993). Silly things like these are often pointed out in Rich Burlew's Order of the Stick, an online comic based on D&D characters.
  • It's possible for a wizard not to know about magic, a druid not to know about nature and a cleric not know about religion (including his own).
  • Class skills are pretty much set in stone for each class, with only a handful of ways to add skills to your class skills. Curiously, d20 Modern fixed this with its starting occupation system, but unlike many other fixes to 3E of that system, it wasn't included in the 3.5 update.
  • Level Adjustment has become a source of skub

See also[edit]

  • d20 Modern - same mechanics, slightly different rules for a present-day setting
  • Pathfinder Roleplaying Game - a fork of D&D 3.5 edition from when Wizards of the Coast abandoned 3.5 for something more weeaboo
  • Microlite20 - 3rd edition rules boiled down to 1100 words.
  • d20 Standard Reference Hypertext Document - all the rules you're allowed to riff for your own splatbooks. Only thing missing to play the game is the experience table, wealth table and character creation rules.
  • Siegeball - yo dawg, I heard you like traditional games, so I put a game in your game so you can play while you play.
  • Tier System - some character classes are better than others

External links[edit]

  • All changes in the PHB/DMG between 3.0E and 3.5E, compiled with admirable meticulousness by Steven Cooper.
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